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|Honda’s All-New 2018 Odyssey Minivan Arrives In Detroit||
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|Honda To Increase U.S. Production Of Crossovers, Pickups And Minivans||
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|HondaVAC Gets Huge Price Cut For 2016, Still Includes New Honda Odyssey||
Those who think a car with a built-in vacuum cleaner is the greatest gift to humanity, but balk at the idea of paying $45,000 for a new minivan, can now look to the $34,255 Honda Odyssey SE.
It's a new offering for 2016 that brings the HondaVAC within the reach of a few more people than it did last year.
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|2013 Honda Odyssey Touring Elite Review & Test Drive||
Minivans continue to be a big seller for large active families that can take care of their local personal needs and take them in comfort and safety to their favorite weekend or vacation locations. It continues to lead its class in fuel economy (19mpg/city/28mpg/highway), safety while giving up to eight passengers a spacious comfortable interior with a refined and fun-to-drive experience.
I tested the ‘top-of-the-line’ Touring Elite Odyssey and was impressed with all of the attributes that makes today’s minivan such a favorite among families.
All Odyssey models (there are five) are powered by an advanced 3.5 liter, 24-valve, SOHC, all-aluminum V6 engine with i-TEC and variable cylinder management. It generates 248hp at 5,700rpm and 250lb.ft. of torque at 4,800rpm combining a balanced combination of fuel efficiency and low emissions. The engine gives excellent responsiveness and acceleration that I really enjoyed while maneuvering around slow city traffic and when merging on the highway. The engine is mated to a six-speed automatic transmission turning the front wheels. This Honda six-speed changes gears quickly with no perception of each change. It pulls strongly all the way up the gears.
The body of the Odyssey is very rigid utilizing 59% high-strength steel to help isolate noise and to reduce body weight for agile handling and excellent fuel efficiency. This strong and rigid body structure and long 118.1 inch wheelbase, ensures a comfortable ride and confident driving performance further enhanced with the fully independent suspension. Up front is a MacPherson strut setup with gas-charged shocks and a 24mm stabilizer bar. The rear features a unique multi-link double-wishbone setup with gas-charged shocks and a 24mm stabilizer bar. This suspension keeps body lean to a minimum when traveling on curving roads and flattens out poorly paved road surfaces. Standard Vehicle Stability Assist and traction control keep you in control when driving on steeply curving roads at speed. Variable power-assisted rack & pinion steering gave me an excellent feel for the road, good on-center feel and light steering effort when driving slow and heavier steering feel at highway speeds. It was responsive to all of my steering inputs. It is one of the best driving minivans that I have tested over the years.
Slowing the Odyssey Touring Elite down from speed are large, power-assisted, four-wheel disc brakes. Up front are 12.6 inch vented discs clamped with dual-piston calipers and 13.1 inch solid discs clamped with large single-piston calipers in the rear. Braking control and power are enhanced with standard ABS, EBD and BA. Whenever I used the brakes hard the feel was very linear and assuring.
The Honda Odyssey Touring Elite rides on 17X7 inch alloy wheels wrapped with 235/60R18 inch all-season radial tires for excellent grip and a smooth, quiet ride.
The Odyssey Touring Elite has a distinctive body design with a signature ‘lightning bolt’ side character line that creates a dynamic appearance, and improves the outward view for third-row passengers through a large rear window. The profile also shows a full-perimeter chrome strip around the greenhouse, chrome door handles and blacked-out aero-styled sideview mirrors. The front fascia shows the Honda grille with three chrome horizontal bars. Down below is another air-intake in black with foglamps at the sides. The cat’s-eye’ HID headlamps of the Touring Elite also feature a full-perimeter chrome strip. The rear features a flat power liftgate, rear wiper/washer, a step-up bumper with a rubber insert and a black spoiler at the top of the liftgate to help with rear downforce.
The interior of the Odyssey Touring Elite is one of the most spacious, comfortable, luxurious, high-tech and safe of all of today’s minivans. It offers a range of seating versatility to accommodate child seats, adult passengers and cargo. The passenger volume is 172.5 cu.ft. and the cargo volume ranges between 38.4 cu.ft. of cargo volume with all seats up, to 148.5 cu.ft. depending on the seating configuration. With the second-row seats removed, a 4X8 ft. sheet of plywood can fit inside the Odyssey’s cargo bay. With the available front console removed, 10 ft. long 2X4 studs can fit inside the vehicle. The Odyssey’s interior provides three rows of comfortable seating with generous legroom in each row. Up to five LATCH child seats allow parents great flexibility in locating car seats. The driver’s seat is 10-way power adjustable and the passenger-seat is 4-way power adjustable for maximum comfort. A three-mode second-row seat design provides the ability to attach up to three child seats across the second row by relocating the outboard seats to alternate positions closer to the doors. The one-motion, 60/40 split third-row Magic Seat, one of Odyssey’s most versatile features, is easy to operate with one hand. The instrument panel is made from soft-to-the-touch material and the instrument cluster is easy to see and understand with trip computer readouts seen in the middle.
Standard features in the Odyssey Touring Elite that I tested, not mentioned above includes a leather trimmed interior Honda Navigation system with voice recognition and multi-view rear camera, hard disk drive FM-Traffic, ultra-wide 16.2 inch DVD rear entertainment system with HDMI and wireless headphone, a Dolby 650-watt AM-FM-CD surround-sound audio system with 12 speakers and a subwoofer with MP3/WMA playback, XM satellite radio, Bluetooth hands free phone, Bluetooth audio, MP3/auxiliary input jack, USB audio interface, leather-wrapped/tilt/telescopic steering wheel with audio/Bluetooth/cruise control buttons, tri-zone automatic climate control, two-position memory, front express up/down windows, second-row power windows, power door locks, power side-doors/rear liftgate, 115-volt power outlet, locking glove box, cupholders at each seat, storage bin under the center console under the dashboard, and in each door, 12-volt power outlet, exterior temperature gauge, floor mats front/middle/rear, Home-Lind system and a maintenance minder system with the trip computer, heated sideview mirrors, self-dimming rearview mirror, variable-speed windshield wipers/washers, dual map lamps, dual lighted vanity mirrors, remote entry, grab handles above all doors, and middle/rear reading lamps.
Standard safety features include 3-point safety belts for all 8-seats with front pretensioners/load limiters, driver/front passenger dual-stage airbags, driver/front passenger side-impact airbags, side curtain airbags with rollover sensor, active front head restraints, tire pressure monitor, front/rear parking sensors, Blind Spot information system, ACE body structure, and daytime running lamps.
There are many first-class minivans on the market today but the 2013 Honda Odyssey Touring Elite is one of the best with excellent driving characteristics, plenty of seating and cargo carrying versatility, luxury, convenience, connectivity and safety.
COPYRIGHT: 2013: HARVEY SCHWARTZ
- Price: $43,925.00 as tested
- Engine: 3.5-liter 24-valve SOHC V6 248 horsepower @ 5,700 rpm / 250 lb.ft. of torque @ 4,800 rpm
- Total length: 202.9 inches
- Total width: 70.2 inches
- Total height: 68.4 inches
- Track: f/r-68.1/68.2 inches
- Turning circle: 36.7 ft.
- Curb weight: 4,541 pounds
- Towing capacity: 3,500 pounds
- Headroom: f/m/r-38.3/39.4/38 inches
- Legroom: f/m/r-40.9/40.9/42.4 inches
- Passenger volume: 170.1 cu.ft.
- 0-60 mph: 7.8 seconds
- EPA Fuel mileage estimates: 19 mpg city/28 mpg highway
- Fuel tank: 21 gallons
|Comparison Review: 2011 Toyota Sienna XLE V6 vs. 2011 Honda Odyssey Touring||
Recently minivan sales have been on the decline overall which is understandable considering how many new SUV and crossover offerings are available for families. Two Japanese minivans that help keep the American ‘van’ segment alive, (alongside of American minivans), are the Toyota Sienna and Honda Odyssey.
In the parking lots of shopping centers, schools and even amusement parks, you see an abundance of minivans intertwined with the dominating numbers of SUVs and crossovers. The minivan still remains to be a viable alternative for large families that do not want to shell out 50 grand or more for a large gas guzzling SUV. Even if it’s only for the sake of comfortable and reliable transportation and this is where vehicles like the new 2011 Toyota Sienna and 2011 Honda Odyssey fill the gaps.
The new 2011 Honda Odyssey is the only minivan whose sales have increased over the past year. That does not mean the 2011 Toyota Sienna is any worse, which is why we spent some time with both vehicles for a comparison test.
The new 2011 Honda Odyssey remains to be at the top of its class offering the sportiest feeling out of any other minivan that I have driven. Honda redesigned the Odyssey for 2011 but didn’t sway too far away from what has worked for them over the past 16 years, including the last generation introduced in 2008. Styling has become a bit sporty over the years easing that ‘shameful’ feeling some pride-stricken fathers may get when seen driving the family van. But don’t let the sportiness fool you, the 2011 Odyssey is still a very functional minivan accommodating for all members of the family.
The new 2011 Toyota Sienna could almost pass as a distant cousin of the new Odyssey where they both offer comparable styling and class. Although Toyota has had their fair share of recalls leading to quality propaganda, they are still the same company the makes best sellers and cater to the average American family with reliable vehicles. Just like the 2011 Odyssey, the 2011 Toyota Sienna has been completely redesigned.
The introduction of the 1998 Sienna proved how an over-seas automotive company can truly compete in America when the segment was dominated by the folks at Chrysler with their minivans. Now for 2011 the Toyota Sienna, just like the new Honda Odyssey, has something for the whole family such as 7 or 8 passenger configurations, power sliding doors, widescreen DVD entertainment system, tri-zone climate controls, 6-speed automatic transmission and a powerful V6 engine.
Were our 2011 Toyota Sienna XLE and 2011 Honda Odyssey Touring test vehicles differentiate is on the inside. The interiors of the two are very different especially when it comes to the dashboard and seating positions. You have to wonder: How different can two comparable Japanese minivans be when it comes to the interior? It is easy, the Toyota Sienna somehow does not use the traditional styling for interiors as found in vehicles such as the Camry. On the other hand, the Honda Odyssey, despite having a more desirable dashboard look and feel than the Sienna, suffers from lack of a comfortable seating position for the front passengers, mainly the driver. What use is it having a minivan if the driver cannot be comfortable?
The 2011 Sienna has cheap-looking plastics all over the dash area that does not live up to what you expect from Toyota. The Honda Odyssey also has a lot of plastic on the dash but it does not look nearly as cheap as the Sienna’s. It could be a balancing act for the front row (driver & front passenger) seats considering a 6-foot tall person will not be comfortable in the driver’s seat of the Odyssey but has more adjustability in the Sienna.
Moving back to the second row seats, the Sienna has a lot of adjustability where kids or adults any size would find a comfortable position. The long seat rails on the floor allow the seats to slide back and forth almost a couple feet where the Honda Odyssey may appear to be more of a challenge for ‘bigger’ adults. You can still find your optimal seating position for the second row in the Odyssey as well as in the third row. As you would expect, the third row seating for both the Sienna and Odyssey tend to be a little thinner with the padding but allows the seats to be folded down in the lower rear storage areas leaving a flat cargo area much larger than most SUVs.
If you have seen the ‘Swagger Wagon’ commercials on TV, then you know that the Sienna is marketed as being a ‘hip’ or ‘cool’ vehicle that any member of the family does not mind being seen in. That can also be said about the Honda Odyssey. I think the Odyssey is probably the best looking minivan on the street with the new Sienna coming in at a strong 2nd place. The Sienna appears to be bigger than the Odyssey, which by cargo volume numbers it is. Strangely enough, the Honda Odyssey is bigger and wider on the outside than the Sienna. Slightly more cargo volume in the Sienna is probably contributed to the longer wheelbase and higher roofline than that of the Odyssey.
Performance in a minivan is not really the first question you ask a salesperson when shopping for one of these family haulers. Even though performance is a secondary factor when looking for a minivan, it is still very relevant especially when it comes to fuel economy. After-all, minivan families tend to actually go places and travel on long trips. In this department both the Sienna and Odyssey have good numbers for city driving. Highway gas mileage is where you will find your larger contrast. The 2011 Sienna XLE V6 gets 18mpg city and 24mpg highway while the 2011 Odyssey Touring Elite edition gets 19mpg city and 28 mpg highway. Keep in mind that both our test minivans had a V6 engine producing only an 18hp difference. For 2011 the Toyota Sienna has an option of a 2.7-liter 4-cyl engine producing 187 horsepower and 186 foot-pounds of torque while our test Sienna XLE vehicle was equipped with a 3.5-liter V6 producing 266 horsepower and 245 foot-pounds of torque mated to a 6-speed automatic. Our 2011 Honda Odyssey Touring Elite edition was fitted with the standard VTEC 3.5-liter V6 engine producing 248 horsepower and 250 foot-pounds of torque mated to a 6-speed automatic. The LX, EX and EXL version of the Odyssey only comes as a 5-speed automatic which may not get as good gas mileage as the Touring and our Touring Elite edition with a standard 6-speed auto tranny.
Both of our test vehicle configurations make for a quick minivan that still reassures your confidence even when you have a full load of 7 other passengers. That probably cannot be said for the 4-cylindar version of the Sienna, which we have not yet tested.
Our 2011 Honda Odyssey Touring Elite edition comes at a premium in terms of price. It is one of the most expensive minivans on the market coming in at a tested price of $44,030. At this price a buyer may want to consider taking a gander at some large SUVs. With the Odyssey Touring Elite edition you do get plenty of options and creature comforts such as an ultrawide 16.2-inch DVD entertainment system, 650-watt stereo system with Bluetooth audio streaming, voice activated GPS navigation, blind spot information system, and a cooling cool-box for keeping sandwiches cold on those long trips. However, a base 2011 Honda Odyssey starts at just $27,800.
Our Toyota Sienna XLE V6 tipped the as-tested price scale to $39,604. This included all of the XLE premium package equipment, which adds voice activated touch-screen GPS navigation, backup camera, a rear widescreen dual view DVD entertainment system, streaming Bluetooth audio, and push-button start. A base 2011 Toyota Sienna starts a low $24,560 for the 4-cyl models.
In all, both the 2011 Toyota Sienna and Honda Odyssey offer great versatility and quality craftsmanship in a minivan. We would place the new Honda Odyssey in 1st place and the Toyota Sienna in second if the price were not such an important factor. With the Honda Odyssey not offering much ‘more’ than the Sienna, we could not justify the extra $4,426 for a comparably optioned-out minivan. Both vehicles are great but our heart is set on the Toyota Sienna. It has a certain swagger about it that makes us get over the cheap looking dashboard. The Honda Odyssey is a great runner-up offering a sporty gas-saving minivan, something no one else has pulled off so well.
Copyright: 2011 AutomotiveAddicts.com
2011 Toyota Sienna XLE V6
- Price: Base $24,560 As-Tested $39,604
- Drivetrain: Front Wheel Drive
- Curb Weight (lbs) 4,490
- City (MPG) 18
- Hwy (MPG) 24
- Horsepower: 266 @ 6200 rpm
- Torque (lb-ft) 245 @ 4700 rpm
- Wheelbase 119.3
- Length (in.) 200.2
- Width (in.) 78.2
- Height (in.) 68.9
2011 Honda Odyssey Touring Elite
- Price: Base $27,800 As-Tested $44,030
- Drivetrain: Front Wheel Drive
- Curb Weight (lbs) 4,560
- City (MPG) 19
- Hwy (MPG) 28
- Horsepower: 248 @ 5700 rpm
- Torque (lb-ft) 250 @ 4800 rpm
- Wheelbase 118.1
- Length (in.) 202.9
- Width (in.) 79.2
- Height (in.) 68.4